Who will be the next US president?

[TetrySozy]

Please vote

[silent_thunder]

Please vote

wow!! a two word thread heh anyway create a poll so it will be easier to vote!!

I vote obama

[Kay]

I think it will be Obama. Until a few weeks ago I'd have been on the fence, but McCain seems to have made a huge mistake choosing Palin as his VP with her lack of experience. Many smart, intelligent women I know in the US are very angry and insulted at his thinly veiled attempt to get their vote by selecting Palin. His hope was apparently to sway the Hillary voters to his camp but he's really shot himself in the foot as far as I can tell. Just my opinion of course! :)

[Nazreen]

After the presidential debate, most people and analysts here in Singapore said that Mr Obama didn't even say anything about his achievements while in the Senate as opposed to Mr McCain who stressed his achievements in the past. Obama always stressed that when he becomes president, he'll do this and that. Analysts here also said that Obama isn't even clear on foreign policies and is naive in that area but on the other hand, McCain didn't stress enough on foreign policies which should have been his forte.

But on the other side of the world where it really matters, it seems that Obama has won in that debate and is now leading in independent US surveys. So unless Mr McCain can make a comeback, I also think that Obama will win.

[Fergal]

I also think that Obama will manage to swing it and become the next US President.

When McCain picked Palin, I actually thought that this was a good choice and could get him elected. But perhaps she peaked too early.

[youbetcha1018]

Both Obama and McCain has something in common...Good future for the country. But it is Obama that caught the hearts of the Americans, so I believe that the next US President will be Obama.

[deepak_sharma]

My vote also goes for Obama. Though i am not against McCain...

[pendelton]

Fergal, Palin hasn't peaked yet, one would hope, she needs more seasoning.
Same for Obama, unless he surrounds himself with great advisors.

Neither are the best choice, it's like the Gore/Bush race all over again.

There will be no change for the good for a long long time for the States, even if we make it though the next four years as a nation.

[Fergal]

..There will be no change for the good for a long long time for the States, even if we make it though the next four years as a nation.

Sounds very pessimistic, do you really think things are that bad?

[Nazreen]

Unfortunately, I also share the same sentiments as pendelton with regards to Obama. I have no doubt in my mind that he'll win the coming US presidential elections so the next question that we should be asking is - "Will he be a good president?". He should be since he'll be burdened immediately with the current financial crisis once he goes into office. But what is and what we want him to be are two different things.

In my own opinion, he will not be a good one. He might be eloquent and was able to win the first two presidential debates but I think it all stops there. Even if he surrounds himself with the best advisors as pendelton has mentioned, if he doesn't have the knowledge and experience that it is needed to make the right decisions, then that's it... I do hope that he won't be making a lot of bad decisions.

[pendelton]

Fergal, I don't know if they are quite that bad, but, I can see them heading that way rapidly if either of them gets too high on their perceived power.

[Hurbel2k]

Why these pessimistic voices against Obama?

How can anyone compare Palin (whose narrowmindedness is shockingling insane and beyond comedy) and Obama (An international man with great ideas)?

Obama's runnimg mate Biden will make up for McCain on the question of knowing the business etiquette of the establishment.

Go Obama, Go!

[pendelton]

Hurb, that is a matter of opinion really.

[Nazreen]

Why these pessimistic voices against Obama?

How can anyone compare Palin (whose narrowmindedness is shockingling insane and beyond comedy) and Obama (An international man with great ideas)?

Obama's runnimg mate Biden will make up for McCain on the question of knowing the business etiquette of the establishment.

Go Obama, Go!

The reason for all these pessimism against Obama is mainly caused by uncertainty and arising from that uncertainty is fear. If we base the US election according to the results of the 3 Presidential debates, then Obama will definitely win. If that's the case then he will be responsible for bringing back the greatest economy in the world - the US economy, from financial crisis to recovery. So does he have what it takes to tackle this difficulty?

During the debate and in the presidential campaign, McCain is telling the world that he is a man of action. At the other camp, Obama is telling the world the he is a voice of change? But what if he is just that... just a voice? No action?

[pendelton]

Presidents either get the credit, or take the blame, for what happens while in office, usually they have little control over what happens over all. Bush, though, has set the next President up to fail, regardless of how well they do. His war monger policy has not helped, and the next President will suffer for it, since it will hinder economic recovery here.

[entreator]

I am not an american so i am not that aware about the debates and what the 2 candidates are putting forward as there points in these presidential debates , but i know one thing that obama seriously gives the positive vibes of being a leader who can bring US out of this current crisis and can make the whole world change there thinking about US being an aggressive country threatening others to do what they wish them to do.

[Fergal]

I hear that Palin is making an appearance on "Saturday Night Live", how will that affect her ratings?

[Nazreen]

I wasn't able to watch Saturday Night Live but I've read that there were some nasty comments saying that Palin was too dumb to know that she was being made fun of in the show. I tend to agree with those who said she was a great sport and the decision to make an appearance on SNL was a very brilliant move on her part - it's very good publicity for her.

[pendelton]

I read she got a decent jab or two in herself.

[Tetris]

I think Obama will win. I am writing Ron Paul in on the ballot, even though I don't think he will win. I want to have a clear conscience.

[Fergal]

I think Obama will win. I am writing Ron Paul in on the ballot, even though I don't think he will win. I want to have a clear conscience.

Is Ron Paul still in the race?

[Nazreen]

I don't think I heard of Ron Paul before. Is he an independent candidate? I've heard people calling them nuisance candidates before and they actually play some role in determining who wins the election or not. The candidate who's leading in the surveys (in this case, Obama) usually gets to benefit because the nuisance candidate will take some of the votes from his opponent McCain.

[entreator]

I wish obama wins,i don't know what the reason of me choosing him but i think all over the world people think that obama will be a much more honest and responsible leader than his predecessors.He is considered to be a man who can bring peace all over the world,and does that with the responsibility that a leader of a great nation has upon his shoulders.Frankly speaking he appears to be a man who has come up and has shown that US is a country where anyone with skills and abilities can come up achieve success,i.e. even if he is from a minority community which has been hated and subdued for the major part of american history,he has not shown any weakness in performing what a leader does.
All-In-All he deserves to become the president of united states and its not just a matter of interest for the US citizens but for people all over the world.

[Kay]

I don't think I heard of Ron Paul before. Is he an independent candidate? I've heard people calling them nuisance candidates before and they actually play some role in determining who wins the election or not. The candidate who's leading in the surveys (in this case, Obama) usually gets to benefit because the nuisance candidate will take some of the votes from his opponent McCain.

Ron Paul stepped out of the limelight a good few months ago now after pursuing the nomination that McCain won, but he'd probably fall into that category you mention now. He's on the ballot papers for Montana for instance.

http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2008/10/28/bnews/br69.txt

I don't understand why he wouldn't just let McCain be the only one if he's still representing the party. It just splits the votes as you say. In fairness, it does say in that article he asked for his name to be removed from the ballot papers but it couldn't be done.

Apparently he amongst four others qualifies as a write-in candidate in California (http://totalbuzz.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/29/ron-paul-qualifies-as-write-in-candidate/6694/) but I wouldn't be picking new curtains for the White House if I was any of them, put it that way. :D

[Kay]

I hear that Palin is making an appearance on "Saturday Night Live", how will that affect her ratings?

If nothing else, it showed she has a sense of humor. Her latest sketch was an unscripted one - she's got caught by a prank phone call (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081102/ap_on_el_pr/canada_palin_prank_call;_ylt=AtqI.1fjE3lVIqr5F0o4. Nas0NUE)from a Canadian comedian pretending to be the French president. Unbelievable that the guy even managed to get through!

[Fergal]

Thanks for the explanation Kay and for that link about Palin. That article is a great read, by the sounds of it she handled the prank call quite well. The typical political diplomacy is very evident in her answers, she is very careful not to give a strong opinion on anything she didn't expect to hear on the call and everything she says is positive.

[Kay]

It could have been a lot worse, that's for sure, Fergal. She came out of it pretty much unscathed I thought and was smart enough not to throw a screaming fit over it and demand they don't use it. McCain was just on SNL too (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081103/ap_on_en_tv/mccain_saturday_night_live_16), joking around.

I think it does them good to show their human side a little.

[Nazreen]

The US elections is almost here and with that I do hope that the American people will vote for the candidate that they think will be able to lead the country wisely and not the one who they want to drink a couple of beers with.

I think that they should vote for the candidate who can give assurances that the government will be doing it's best to solve the financial crisis. Another criteria would be that he should also be able to hold the country together during this time.

A lot of people are eagerly awaiting for this momentous event because even with the rise and fast development of nations like China and others, many nations are still looking for the US to lead.

[Fergal]

The candidates will probably benefit from showing their human side this close to the election, as many voters are making up their minds and finalising their decision. Many voters will vote for the person they like most, because this is the person they feel they can trust.

[scifi]

Tomorrow are the elections for the selection of President for the States..
I have my support on Obama side!!!

[pendelton]

I am off to vote in a few minutes, and I may write in my local mayor as my presidential choice.

Tonight could be a bad night in this country. As an example let's use some of the sporting events that meant less to people over all, but, when their team won they had a celebration that was more of a riot. Cars flipped by groups of people and burned, businesses looted, and general mayhem.

A lot of people seem to be thinking that this is a good possibility. Food, gasoline, and ammunition sales have all increased since the first of the month in several areas of the US I have contacts in. Mostly bigger city areas.

[Kay]

I am off to vote in a few minutes, and I may write in my local mayor as my presidential choice.

Tonight could be a bad night in this country. As an example let's use some of the sporting events that meant less to people over all, but, when their team won they had a celebration that was more of a riot. Cars flipped by groups of people and burned, businesses looted, and general mayhem.

A lot of people seem to be thinking that this is a good possibility. Food, gasoline, and ammunition sales have all increased since the first of the month in several areas of the US I have contacts in. Mostly bigger city areas.

Really? I didn't know that. That's a very troubling thing to hear. I've never understood why sometimes celebration can degenerate into chaos. I hope people don't take it to those extremes and they remain civilized.

[pendelton]

I hope so too Kay, but people will generally be as uncivilized as possible, usually comparing themselves the lowest common denominator.

I only helped flip the car, So-n-so set it on fire.
I only broke the store window, all the others looted it.
I only looted a small cd player, the others took the big stuff.
I only hit him once with the lead pipe, the other guy hit him twice.

It is just like the neighbors trying to one up each other, one gets a new car, the other gets a better one, one gets a big TV, the other gets a bigger TV, on and on.

[silent_thunder]

Barack Obama the New president of US of A. It has taken 200 years for a black man to become a president. So it must have been really difficult and this shows the scale of this win.

Barack Obmam is a great leader

[pendelton]

Barack Obmam is a great leader

That remains to be seen.

I am very happy to say that the area I live in is very quiet, given the largish population. I love being so wrong in some cases.

[Fergal]

I've just heard the news, on breakfast radio here in Ireland. I hope that it is a good day for America and that Obama does prove himself to be a great leader.

Obama takes over the presidency at a difficult time. The economic situation is so difficult that the war in Iraq appears to have moved to second place on the media agenda. Maybe it's too much to ask but it would be great if Obama's Presidency could have a positive impact on these two major issues.

[Nazreen]

Yes, it's official! Obama will be the next US president and I do agree that he'll be inheriting quite a huge burden with the current financial crisis. Now the next question that's in everyone's minds is what he will do once he takes his oath on January, next year. Also, Americans stationed in Iraq closely monitored the elections because most of them know that Obama was against that war. What will happen to American forces there?

[pendelton]

Those forces will go by the UN mandate, unless the Security Pack is approved and they stay. All of this is part of the game pieces he will inherit when he takes the oath. Being locked in to certain courses of action, regardless of what he wants.

[Fergal]

Obama, has taken over the presidency at a difficult time in America's history. This is similar to the position Brian Cowen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_cowen) has found himself in, in Ireland. It is difficult for a political leader to be popular, when cutbacks are needed during a recession. I wonder how the timing will affect Obama's popularity and his chances of getting in for a second term?

[Kay]

Welcome, Roy. :)

I can't say I really understand your post since the election's all done and dusted. You're a day behind, I'm afraid. Obama won last night. There's an ongoing thread here. (http://businessadviceforum.com/showthread.php?t=1324)

[Kay]

Obama, has taken over the presidency at a difficult time in America's history. This is similar to the position Brian Cowen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_cowen) has found himself in, in Ireland. It is difficult for a political leader to be popular, when cutbacks are needed during a recession. I wonder how the timing will affect Obama's popularity and his chances of getting in for a second term?

At least he's inheriting it rather than creating it. Many a politician's done well with a "the previous administration did it" line. I'm not saying it's a get out of jail free card for him but I think that would be taken into consideration when we look back historically on his term in office in the future. Time will tell - it always does. I just hope he chooses his closest advisers very carefully and looks for experience.

[Nazreen]

Welcome to the Business Advice Forum Roy.

Yes, as Kay has mentioned, it's already official and Obama has won the elections. People are already celebrating and leaders of most countries have already sent their congratulations to him.

[Fergal]

Welcome to Business Advice Forum, Roy.

Threads merged.

[Big_0n3]

Yes Obama won . I think that he is the first black president of US.