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bravo2aviation
Wed 23rd Jul 2008, 05:07
Hello, as a first time business owner, I am WAY under-educated. I opened an aircraft repair shop at the largest airport in my area. Had the city/airport commission pulling for me 100%. There was a shop there several years ago, and he stayed unbelievably busy. My operating costs are not that bad: insurance, rent, utilities, etc. My problem is that with all the building up, and general buzz about finally scoring another full time facility, I've seen almost nothing. And I mean NOTHING! I've been open 3 months, my phone has rang 4 times, and I've grossed $600. I can't afford the advertisements that I need in the commercial pubs, so I made my own, and have traveled a 400 mile radius, to no avail. I started wondering in the beginning if this might be the case, so my father bought a wrecked airplane for me to rebuild and sell, and that's all working out, but I need to draw the business in!!! Everyone's so glad to have me, but apparently not glad enough to let me have their business. I have an excellent reputation, and am good at what I do, so I'm stumped. Fuel costs can't be the only reason. What am I overlooking? Any I deas? Thanks, bravo
Zantetsken
Wed 23rd Jul 2008, 05:19
I don't know anything about aircrafts, but maybe they don't need repairs? Or maybe they just aren't entirely aware of your repair shop?
I don't know much about this, so I don't know what to say, but I hope things start looking better for you...
Nazreen
Wed 23rd Jul 2008, 05:59
First of all, let me welcome you to the Business Advice Forum bravo.
Now, regarding your problem.. I think that what's missing in your business is marketing and advertising. Even though your product or service is the best but no one knows about the existence of your business, then you won't get any customers. If you cannot afford commercial advertisements, why not try advertising in free magazines and even local radio stations?
You've mentioned that you also have an excellent reputation so I would assume that you've worked for another company repairing aircrafts before. Hope that you still have your old customers contact numbers. You can also call them up and inform them of your new business. Don't be disappointed if they say that they prefer another company but just tell them that you're offering more competitive rates and services and also mention to keep your aircraft repair business in reserve, just in case they change their mind.
DEADMAN
Wed 23rd Jul 2008, 06:08
You said that you're way Under-Educated then that may be your first weakness. You may not be experienced with all the aircrafts issues and business. You work at the largest airport company and it takes time for anything no matter how high ranked it is. Things get to be settled down in a certain time when you also settle down with a perfect calm mind and start thinking to advertise about your services.
Nazreen
Wed 23rd Jul 2008, 07:43
You said that you're way Under-Educated then that may be your first weakness.
I have to disagree with this statement. There are a lot of very successful people out there who doesn't even have a degree or diploma. Just take the example of billionaire J.R. Simplot who developed the first commercial frozen french fries for McDonald's. He dropped out of school at the age 14.
ritajones56
Wed 23rd Jul 2008, 16:09
That's true but under-educated could also mean more research needs to be done and more expertise needs to be gained about your specific area of business, which could be done by means other than formal education in a classroom.
Fergal
Wed 23rd Jul 2008, 19:03
Welcome to Business Advice Forum Bravo.
I 'm sorry to hear that you are not getting the business you had expected and hoped for.
Everyone's so glad to have me, but apparently not glad enough to let me have their business.
You might consider calling 2 or 3 of the contacts you know and trust best and ask them directly why they are not giving you the business. You find it difficult to ask, but knowing is better than not knowing and your survival in the business may well depend on understanding why customers are not currently using your services. Once you understand this you will have an opportunity to rectify the situation.
I can't afford the advertisements...
Do you have a contact list of potential customers? Have you considered telephoning them and advising them of your services?
Have you considered flyers and business cards? You might find that a more direct marketing approach could prove to be more successful than advertising.
Good luck with turning the situation around and please reply back to let us know how you are getting on.
BlueEew
Thu 24th Jul 2008, 00:19
First of all, let me welcome you to the Business Advice Forum bravo.
Now, regarding your problem.. I think that what's missing in your business is marketing and advertising. Even though your product or service is the best but no one knows about the existence of your business, then you won't get any customers. If you cannot afford commercial advertisements, why not try advertising in free magazines and even local radio stations?
You've mentioned that you also have an excellent reputation so I would assume that you've worked for another company repairing aircrafts before. Hope that you still have your old customers contact numbers. You can also call them up and inform them of your new business. Don't be disappointed if they say that they prefer another company but just tell them that you're offering more competitive rates and services and also mention to keep your aircraft repair business in reserve, just in case they change their mind.
I totally agree with this fellow member. You might have a good, or very good service to offer. However selling that service is now what you need to aim at.
Imagine you had a website that sells a product. But you have never advertised it. No one even knows it exists.
bravo2aviation
Fri 25th Jul 2008, 15:49
Hi and thanks to all the replies. I have sent out letters to aircraft owners, and my longtime customers have committed, but with fuel being so high, they never fly, so the only maintenance they will get is the big annual inspection which is done once a year. That gives me 11 planes on the books, for a once a year inspection!! I have posted fliers in a LOT of airports, but I need to follow up and make sure they weren't taken down and thrown out as some will do. I am basically a paint job away from finished with the plane here so I will be able to do a lot of getting around in a short time. There has been mention here that I should host a "fly-in hamburger cooking" sounds like that may be a good way to meet folks, but I need to do more homework so I'm not having to eat 300 burgers all alone! Currently looking for online advertising ideas that will be affordable or even free. Only a small local paper here, takes 8 months to sell a lawnmower.
Hurbel2k
Sat 26th Jul 2008, 07:04
Hang out in the pilot bar in the evening.
Nazreen
Sat 26th Jul 2008, 09:24
As Hendrik has mentioned, hanging out in the pilot bar will also help you to meet new customers. You don't have to drink much but if the staff see you as a regular then they won't throw out your fliers. Most business start off slow during the first year or first two years. This is because the customers still don't know about your business and also, most people would normally go to old businesses that they are already comfortable with and patronize.
Do you have lots of competition in the aircraft repair business Bravo? You might also want to consider offering something that your other competitions don't offer their customers.
Fergal
Sat 26th Jul 2008, 14:38
How big is your potential market in terms of the number of decision maker contacts?
bravo2aviation
Mon 28th Jul 2008, 04:52
According to the FAA registry, there are just shy of 200 airplanes registered to private owners within a 250 mile radius of my shop. As far as competition, there is a facility 60 miles north, 75 miles south, 75 miles west, and 150 miles east. I'm pretty much it in my area, and I did some undercover research to make sure my shop rate was just below the shops listed above. Hoping convenience will prevail. I like the pilot bar idea. Thanks
Nazreen
Mon 28th Jul 2008, 05:17
I think the tip from this thread (http://www.businessadviceforum.com/showthread.php?t=1030) will also help.
* Don't get too discouraged if your business starts slowly; it takes time to get your business known.
Most businesses starts slowly because customers don't know about your business yet. You mustn't get discouraged but try to focus on marketing and advertising your business first. How about your competition/s? Do you know how they advertise their services Bravo?
Fergal
Mon 28th Jul 2008, 13:05
According to the FAA registry, there are just shy of 200 airplanes registered to private owners within a 250 mile radius of my shop...
Can you get the name, address and telephone contact details of all these owners? If you can you might consider working your way through this list using a direct marketing approach, i.e. be telephoning them or mailing them to inform them of your services. This will also provide you with extremely useful market research info your target market's needs and requirements.
You might consider taking the list in batches of ten. This will allow you to tweak and improve your approach as you go along. Don't be afraid of repetition. If they don't have a need when you call, make a quick reminder call a couple of months later. If you adopt a friendly non-pushy approach they shouldn't object to your quick call. If you make regular contact with your potential customers they will have you in mind the next time they have a need for your services.
ritajones56
Wed 30th Jul 2008, 16:04
I think the tip from this thread (http://www.businessadviceforum.com/showthread.php?t=1030) will also help.
Most businesses starts slowly because customers don't know about your business yet. You mustn't get discouraged but try to focus on marketing and advertising your business first. How about your competition/s? Do you know how they advertise their services Bravo?
Make sure you have everything set with your business as far as making your product or service as good as it can be, and then go full force with your marketing efforts. It will take some time, but good things come to those who wait.
bravo2aviation
Tue 5th Aug 2008, 05:19
Thanks, guys. I am focusing on making sure that I can handle any request, then upping the marketing. These aircraft are required to have a major inspection once per year, and a fraction of that year has come and gone, so my odds are getting better. Fuel costs are also beginning to drop slightly. Bravo
Nazreen
Tue 5th Aug 2008, 06:59
Are the yearly major inspections being done in a specific month Bravo? If they are, you can up your marketing and advertising two to three months before the inspection.
I don't want to be the bringer of bad news but the drop in the price of oil might just be a temporary one. Currently, there's trouble in the Middle East with Iran doing a missile test in response to a U.S. ultimatum to freeze expansion of it's nuclear work.
Fergal
Tue 5th Aug 2008, 07:25
Thanks for the update Bravo, glad to hear that there appears to be light at the end of the tunnel.
bravo2aviation
Sun 17th Aug 2008, 04:11
Hi, it's been a while, I've gotten busier! The yearly inspections are scattered throughout all 12 months, no specific order for those. I have been informed of a pending contract with a commuter airline that is about to setup shop at the airport here, also got a contract for "overflow" from a major university's flight department, which is great news, because these planes are flown under a different set of FAA regulations, and require an inspection every 100 hours of operation. There are 12 planes and the school averages about 600 hours per month, so I'm about to get crowded FINALLY! The airline will only house one plane on site, so mainly pre and post trip maintenance and pilot write-ups will be done, but should still be plenty. Starting to pick up a little here at home as well, got a large repair job in a month, and starting Monday on an annual inspection at a neighboring airport. I have really been beating the bushes and trying to get the chatter going, lots of road trips to get my name out. And I would like an opinion: I've been taking my 3 year old son with me to these airports. He's a HUGE airplane nut, and loves to talk to folks about theirs. My approach has been: "The more PB&J's I can get in this little guy, the quicker he'll grow into my number one technician" It seems to be working, and always leaves a smile on their faces. He is a cute little guy. Thanks for putting up with my rambling. Bravo
Fergal
Sun 17th Aug 2008, 11:03
Bravo, sounds like your business is moving forward very successfully, congratulations on that and keep up the good work. It's great that you can involve your son and that he enjoys it.
Just remember that you cannot be too careful with kids in a work environment. They are curious by nature and don't recognise dangerous situations or objects.
bojomojo
Tue 19th Aug 2008, 12:50
First of all, by "Under Educated" I think bravo means in the Business area, not in the aircrafting repair area.
You must take into consideration that this is a dangerous business, repairing aircrafts are not like repairing cars, it involves more life risking, so basically you cant find alot of aircraft owners heading your way just because of the competitive rates.
The move of the plane your father got you to fix is actually a great advertising move, if it is yours then i think you should paint it with the name of your shop and use if for advertising.
You mentioned that most customers dont fly now because of the fuel being so high, that means the customers that do fly now are not concerned mostly with that, meaning they are easy on money, so to target them you cant use "competitive rates" only, as they need something trusted to trust you with thier lives.
You mentioned your reputation being so good, So i think like the other members said you have been working for someone, actually your 11 customers trusting you is very reliefing as many people might want to stick with what they have always been using, yes they only do the annual checkup but they are "your customers" in turn they form a channel of advertising.
I dont really think advertising in radiostations will do anything, most aircraft owners dont listen to local channels unless they are helpful for business and that will cost you more.
Pilots are very important as mentioned above, you should mingle with them, alot of owners will ask thier pilots what to do, and those are the customers you should target.
Summary:
What I think:
This is not real bad, considering the market state and the fuel being so high now.
The plane you are fixing will give you a huge push once people see what you have done.
you cant target rich users on a new shop, it will take time.
What to do:
1. You mentioned the operating costs are OK, so stay.
2. Finish the plane you are working on as "best" as it can be. Make sure all people know what you have done, a little demonstration should be awesome.
3. Always be in contact with your 11 customers and other potential customers, but not relating to work, let them feel you are a friend, never talk about work or mention it.
4. Be around pilots, they are the people that should know about your shop. Use one of them for the plane demonstration as an insurance for him and other pilots your work is good.
5. Dont feel down, that will hurt your business miserably, you look good in shape and you just started.
6. Should have once a month tour, public your as your business increases.
More info I need before giving more advice:
1. Where have you been working before?
2. Where are other people fixing thier planes?
3. Where is the nearest shop similar to yours?
4. I am not experienced in the field, but are there any spare part shops or accessories for aircrafts?
Nazreen
Wed 20th Aug 2008, 10:39
Nice to hear that your aircraft repair business is picking up Bravo. Now that customers are pouring in, it would be good if you're organized in setting appointments and the actual repairs. It wouldn't be good if you take more jobs than you can handle.
Regarding your 3 year old son, it's good that he's also a huge airplane nut and I think that it's good to start them young. You must take care that he doesn't play in the shop and play with dangerous tools though. Good luck again!
silent_thunder
Wed 20th Aug 2008, 14:56
I am new to airfact business models,so I cant really go into your busineess stratergies but I can tell advice in general.think of the things that motivated you to start the business, think about good things, pleasant things that happened while you were doind business ,the nice people that you had met while doing that
Even I want to start a company of my own but I dont know were to start as there are no one to guide me:confused: So this feeling is normal
these are normal questions...if you are having these questions in mind then you are normal...dont worry I have them too..
The successful people are those who realised that success is just around the corner
Whatever you do dont give up because giving up is the worst thing one can possible do to once confidence, Think of it as a bad face ride through it ...
For business is not a sprint it is a marathon
Dont lose spirit man!!! All the best positive thing can do wonders
Hope is a good thing, it is the best of things and no good thing ends bad
Fergal
Wed 20th Aug 2008, 17:39
Reflecting on your reason for setting the business up in the first place is an excellent tip. This can definitely help us to remain positive and motivated, when times get tough.
Most people don't start a business because they think it will be easy or not challenging. If it was going to be easy from the outset, it probably wouldn't have motivated you to do it. It's the tough times that make the good results all the more rewarding.
bojomojo
Wed 20th Aug 2008, 21:58
I am sorry about my last post, I was answering some old questions, I see you managed o get your name up ;)
I agree with the fellows here, you shouldnt get your self to busy, one thing at a time i say.
Also yes be careful when your son is around, especially with what you are doing, he WILL try to imtate you.
Last but not least, best of luck :)
Zantetsken
Thu 21st Aug 2008, 04:01
I don't think I really have anything helpful to say, but it's good to hear that things seem to be going well for you now. As others have advised, you should be careful about having your son there. Having him there is surely heartwarming, but you also have to consider not just the dangers, but that he might also act as a bit of a distraction. And keep in mind that he's just three years old, so you don't have to rush things with him and his interests. You probably wouldn't want to turn people down, but try not to get swamped with too much work.
Nazreen
Thu 21st Aug 2008, 05:41
For business is not a sprint it is a marathon
This is a very good way of looking at business silent_thunder. This is so true because most people and businesses are only good and dedicated at the onset. After that, people tend to slow down and don't perform well after achieving a few successes.
The Japanese people and those practicing Zen also have a saying that is similar to this and that is "Do everything as when you've just started". By doing this, you'll perform and do things as when you've just started - with dedication and enthusiasm.
DEADMAN
Thu 21st Aug 2008, 07:24
Bravo, good man. Your business is now seemed to be working and improving.
I have to disagree with this statement. There are a lot of very successful people out there who doesn't even have a degree or diploma. Just take the example of billionaire J.R. Simplot who developed the first commercial frozen french fries for McDonald's. He dropped out of school at the age 14.
I read the first page and saw Nazreen was disagreeing with my post. The sentence I used "You said that you're way Under-Educated then that may be your first weakness." is that,
At first, I didn't mean to say Under-Educated doesn't only define you're under educated in the education only and you cannot be successful. And, Under-Educated people may also be successful but they also need special technique or ideas in the required field to gain success. Without it, it's dumb brain to invent or discover new ideas.
So, what I meant was "Way Under-educated" means lacking the special education/techniques in the required field as we're talking about "aircraft" as he might be new in the business of Aircrafts.
I saw a guy supporting me below Nazreen's post.
That's true but under-educated could also mean more research needs to be done and more expertise needs to be gained about your specific area of business, which could be done by means other than formal education in a classroom.
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